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To : vlc at videolan.org
videolan-announce at videolan.org
Date : Wed Feb 14 10:13:40 2001
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After a long, long, long while, version 0.2.60 of the VideoLAN Client
(vlc) is out. A lot of new features have been added since the 0.1.99
series, and the program is faster as well.
Amongst the hot news, we now have MPEG 1 support, direct DVD support,
encrypted DVD support, fast forward and slow motion, hardware YUV
acceleration through the SDL library, arbitrary seeking in the stream.
Loading Image...
We lost a few features in the process (TS input, GGI, plain X11,
framebuffer output) because these modules haven't been ported to the new
client structre yet. We are all working on this.
http://www.videolan.org/download.html
ftp://ftp.videolan.org/pub/videolan/0.2.60/
We now have the official authorization from our director to
distribute VideoLAN under the GPL, which means that the development is
going to be more open and hopefuly more active. The CVS repository has
% cvs -d :pserver:anonymous at anoncvs.videolan.org:/var/cvs/videolan login
(Logging in to anonymous at anoncvs.videolan.org)
% cvs -d :pserver:anonymous at anoncvs.videolan.org:/var/cvs/videolan co vlc
A new mailing-list has been created, called vlc-devel, aimed at
separating user discussions from developer discussions. The way to
subscribe and unsubscribe is still through the listar at videolan.org
address.
http://www.via.ecp.fr/ml/vlc/
http://www.via.ecp.fr/ml/vlc-devel/
http://www.via.ecp.fr/ml/videolan-announce/
For the VideoLAN team,
Sam.
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perl -ne 's/\.//g; print pack("H224",$1) if(/^x([^z]*)/)' | gunzip

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./vlms -d IP_address_of_B file,mpg

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./vlc -V x11 --input ts IP_Address_of A

But the file could not be played over the LAN...
what to do??

Jeevo


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sound works fine with everything else, so what needs to be done to get it to
work with vlc?

Geoff

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it here. You certainly want to know about my OS and hardware:

I run Slackware Linux 7.1; SDL and Gnome are installed.
The computer is a Sony Vaio Notebook (PCG-F350); CPU is PII, 366 MHz;
the drive is a Toshiba DVD-ROM SD-C2202.
Please let me know if you need any further information. I certainly
offer any help I can give to you.

Keep up the good work!

Regards,

Marcos
marcos at kreinacke.de

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before and after - I'll check it when i get home though.

Thanks
Chris Jensen

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a dependency on 'all', so the 'make install' fails with a missing
library.

Either add the dependency or do a 'make all install'.

--
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window and audio output, along with a lot of error message to the
console. Here's a partial log:


module: locking module `ps'
input: opening file `/home/rjhansen/movies/Heat/vts_01_0.vob'
module: locking module `motionmmxext'
module: locking module `idctmmxext'
module: locking module `downmixsse'
module: locking module `imdctsse'
vpar: no vout present, spawning one
module: locking module `xvideo'
vout: video display initialized (720x576, 15/16 bpp)
module: locking module `yuvmmx'
vout error: cannot allocate shared image data (Invalid argument)
vout: failed to create xvimage.
vout error: cannot allocate shared image data (Invalid argument)
vout: failed to create xvimage.
aout: no aout present, spawning one
module: locking module `dsp'
vout error: cannot allocate shared image data (Invalid argument)
vout: failed to create xvimage.
vout error: cannot allocate shared image data (Invalid argument)
vout: failed to create xvimage.
vout error: cannot allocate shared image data (Invalid argument)
vout: failed to create xvimage.
vout error: cannot allocate shared image data (Invalid argument)
vout: failed to create xvimage.


... and yet more errors, of course, all along the same lines, until we
get to the very end:


Gdk-ERROR **: BadShmSeg (invalid shared segment parameter)
serial 134 error_code 188 request_code 148 minor_code 2


... Can anyone give me a pointer on what's going on here, and how to get
VLC working?

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work fine. I also run at 24bpp which does not cause much of a problem
with vlc - the only thing which occasionally is slightly annoying is
that some colors of other windows get messed up due to overlay.
I run SuSE 7.0 with the old glib 2.1 (I think) but I don't think
that the problem lies there.
Could it be that you use vlc successfully, then suspend your A20p,
go home, resume your notebook and things are messed up? Although I

Hmm... Yes.. But the first time it actally worked, I'd done that as well.
Added to that last night I did restart X but it still took a while to get
it working... Maybe it's a combination of the gamma getting screwed AND the
X server had been suspended... I'll have to play... Failing that I'll have
to read some more code...

have now, after some time, managed to get quite a stable suspend/resume,

Mine is stable. The only real problem I've had is APM getting in the way...
It would try & kick off a copy of xscreensaver, and lock up... No kbd or
video, but still running... Thank goodness for network connections eh?

I have the feeling that it is not (yet) perfectly safe.
If the answer to the above question is yes, simply try to restart
the X server after resume and check whether the problem persists.
Otherwise, forget about this email.
Michael

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I don't suffer from Insanity...
I enjoy every minute of it...

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Support available for DVD-ROM
- You can read data from DVD-ROM discs in a default configuration.

Experimental support available for multisession CD-ROMs
-You can read multisession CD-ROM discs using the raw access mode. Use the
Configuration Editor (Settings > Configuration Editor) to set your virtual
DVD/CD-ROM drive to use this mode.

Does this mean that direct access is allowed? Is there a simple .c program
that I can run to check? Can someone send it to me?

Pat

Do the latest versions of VMWare allow direct access to the hardware? I
seem to remember that older versions didn't. I could see this being a
VMWare-related problem.

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multimedia library designed to provide fast access to the graphics
framebuffer and audio device".

You don't really need it because the OS X port has its own native video and
audio output plugins, but if you want to try alternative outputs than you
might want to install it.

Regards,

--
Gildas

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Scott

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(try it with the installed version, of course).

So, I tried --intf gtk and had no luck, same with --intf
intfwin32. Neither one was found.

Seems logical :-)

Good luck. If you want specific errors I can uninstall msys and mingw
(which I probably will anyway) and do it all from scratch.

Well, we can't help you much if you don't give us the errors...

I would have sent logs of the output but msys apparently does not
allow any text copying from its interface, so I'd have to use
printscreen image files. Great tool there....

Hum.... to copy text, just select it...
And you can paste in msys using the middle mouse button.

Regards,

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resampler which greatly enhances the audio quality. If you disable
audio you should get better performance. I have a strategy to improve
that and I hope it will be done by 0.5.3.

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packages for 'woody' and 'sid'.


******* VideoLAN documentation ********

The VideoLAN documentation has moved to Docbook XML and now welcomes all
translations. The VideoLAN FAQ has already be translated into Spanish
and French:

http://www.videolan.org/doc/

If you are willing to translate documentation, please contact
<www-doc at videolan.org>.

The official documentation only deals with the command line interface of
VLC, and can't speak about all the tips and tricks that are specific of
each operating system. We now have a VideoLAN Wiki for this purpose:

http://wiki.videolan.org



We hope you'll enjoy these new releases, and don't forget that
contributions (especially on the code, the translations, the
documentation and the Wiki) are always welcomed !

For the VideoLAN team,

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truetype fonts it can use any size. Please download a newer version.

Sigmund

Hi there...
Been using this amazing piece of software just for 4.5 hours now, and
its incredible that it really plays every file i throw at it...
Only thing is the subtitle font. I've been searching for a way to reduce
its size, but only thing I come up with is that file in my share dir I
think. Now I've been searching for another file with smaller font or a
program to edit the file, but I keep getting nothing. Could you tell me
where I can find several fonts, or just a smaller one then the standard
I downloaded from one of the mirrors?
Thanks a million in advance.
Greetings,
Martin

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sending all content using 3 Transprt streams so I guess that I need at least
3 DVB-T cards. But is the Haupage nova-t card or any other capable of
delivering the whole transport stream down to the driver layer?

What card if all above questions can be solved would you recommend?

Is someone making a software descrambler? (This could ease my headache)

Thanx for any answer,

/Anders

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downloaded from the net each and every one had some
warnings that and enabled disabled options that i
ignored ,.,,, especially the downlaoded source coded
lame (mp3lame) and also the mpeg2dec i had to get into
the source code especially the cvs one.... the trick
is only in the bootstrap and configure files....


Nevertheless I will parse the changes i did later on
.... Cause today am at my office at the airport once
i'll get home to the platform i will post it in....

Still I have one comment which is whenever i change
want to mp4v the audio is gr8 but i have no video
output .... i can see that there is a track but i
don't see any video ....

one question , does vlc under windows support mp4v
viewing ????????

I'll be back within 5 hours around 5 GMT time ...
Best Regards
F.B.

One More thing I know I ask too much but this is

me,

:) I need a full coverage on the codecs used with

vlc

especially vcodec=.... cause it seems the only

codec i

can use to be able to stream video is mpgv ,,, i

was

never able to stream with mpg4v ,,, never theless

also

when i use a local file on the harddisk and stream

it

i usually put "acodec=mp3,ab=128" but when i look

in

the log i see mpga with 48000 Mhz and 384 Kb which
brings also questions and suspects to my curious
mind.....

The name of the MPEG4 codev is mp4v. In order
to transcode in mp3,
you need to have lame on the computer,
compile ffmpeg with the
--enable-mp3lame option, and vlc with the
--with-ffmpeg-mp3lame option
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To : vlc at videolan.=
org
Cc :
Date : Thu, 15 Jan 2004 01:24:38 +0100
Subject=
: [vlc] Re: webcam streaming

Not really enough...=

And which stream output method are you unsing

exactly (which=

method of transcoding, notably ?)

As I told you I tried all stream=

ing methods without success.

In particular I'm trying http stream me=

thod with avi (encapsulation), mp4v

(video codec) and mpga (audio co=

dec).

Thanks again
Ogee

You can't stream avi (avi=

only works if you output to a file because an

index of the complete =

file needs to be put as an header).

Try streaming in Ogg or MPEG T=

S.

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video ES. Maybe anybody any idea?

One short snapshot from divx ES:
0 0 1 0 0 0 1 20 8 c8 d 40 0 66 16 40 c 40 1 90
0 97 53 a 24 8 50 28 30 7f 0 0 1 b2 44 69 76 58 35 30
33 62 31 30 33 31 70 0 0 1 b6 10 0 18 2e 60 a6 6d df 36
db fc db 6f f3 6d bf cd b6 ff 36 db fc db 6f f3 6d bf cd b6

Ascii version of above example:
=01 =01 =08=C8=08=BA=98Q B=81A=83 =01=B2DivX503b1031p =
=01?=12y=18=16 I#=E8J=DB=1B\


Are the horizontal and vertical size somewhere here? I supoose since
"DivX503..." is inside :)

Real sizes are 576x320 (by GSpot)

Thanks a lot,
Milan

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only putting this value in the vlcrc file??

I use WinXP

Thanks

Mauro

-----Original Message-----
From: vlc-bounce at videolan.org on behalf of Gildas Bazin
Sent: Mon 4/19/2004 11:23 AM
To: vlc at videolan.org
Cc:=09
Subject: [vlc] Re: vlc ntservice: how to change http configuration? =
(save port don't work)

Hi Gildas,
=20
sorry,
It don't work!
=20
1)vlc ---save-config --http-host=3D:1973
2)from vlc user interface add http remote control
3)and now I can see http://localhost:1973/
4)Close vlc
5)vlc.exe -I ntservice --ntservice-install =

--ntservice-extraintf=3Dhttp

6)the service started fine
7)http://localhost:1973/ don't work
8)http://localhost:8080/ works again!!!
=20
I use vlc 0.7.1
=20
How to proceed?
=20

The VLC config is account specific so you need to make sure the account =
used=20
for the service is the same as the one you used during your "vlc=20
--save-config" manipulation.
You can also alternatively copy the resulting config file to the right =
place=20
(http://www.videolan.org/doc/faq/en/index.html#id2786714).

--
Gildas

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multiple multicast addresses"

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problem, has anyone found a way around it or will I have to
use Linux rather than windows ?

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success if the MPEG-LA (http://www.mpegla.com) goes on with the
constant hassle (also towards VLC) about licensing issues for
encoding/decoding.

Commentary: MPEG-4 is Dead=20
http://www.streamingmedia.com/article.asp?id=3D8605&page=3D1&c=3D7

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Onderwerp: [vlc] Re: Codecs questions

I have a question regarding streaming and v.o.d.
What is currently your best codec for doing video streaming assuming
VideoLan as server and VLC as client) ? (Which for video, which for
audio, which container).

As for the container, MPEG transport stream is pretty much standard
for streaming. You also need to choose a delivery protocol, such as
RTSP.

I heared H.264 is really ahead of other codecs in term of quality vs
bandwidth.

Sure is. Beats WMV9 hands down IMO.

How does that relate to your best supported codec ? Is there any
plan for supporting H.264 as well ?

It's already supported.

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I'd say H.264 is the way to go when it comes to =
quality vs</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>bandwith, however you still need a proper player to =
support it.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>What good is MPEG4 v10/AVC/H.264 if you need a =
different streaming</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>player (or commercial plugin) and even platform =
(server) for each</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>different streaming implementation by Real/Envivio, =
Apple,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Optibase, VBrick etc? </FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>WM9 seems to be going strong at the moment. Even =
Blu-ray</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>(<A HREF=3D"http://www.blu-ray.com/" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.blu-ray.com/</A>) has adopted WMV9. The =
WM9 player also</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>supports protocol rollover (multi to unicast, udp, =
tcp) hereby</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>also fixing the NAT issue a lot of other clients =
still have</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>(including set top boxes).</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>From my point of view I seriously doubt MPEG4 H.264 =
will be any</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>success if the MPEG-LA (<A =
HREF=3D"http://www.mpegla.com" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.mpegla.com</A>) goes on with the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>constant hassle (also towards VLC) about licensing =
issues for</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>encoding/decoding.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Commentary: MPEG-4 is Dead </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2><A =
HREF=3D"http://www.streamingmedia.com/article.asp?id=3D8605&page=3D1&c=3D=
7" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.streamingmedia.com/article.asp?id=3D8605&pa=
ge=3D1&c=3D7</A></FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Dennis</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Van: M=E5ns Rullg=E5rd [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:mru at mru.ath.cx">mailto:mru at mru.ath.cx</A>]</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Verzonden: donderdag 2 september 2004 18:24</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Aan: vlc at videolan.org</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Onderwerp: [vlc] Re: Codecs questions</FONT> </P> <BR> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Eric NICOLAS &lt;nicolas00 at wanadoo.fr&gt; =
writes:</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; I have a question regarding streaming and =
v.o.d.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; What is currently your best codec for doing =
video streaming assuming</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; VideoLan as server and VLC as client) ? (Which =
for video, which for</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; audio, which container).</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>As for the container, MPEG transport stream is pretty =
much standard</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>for streaming.&nbsp; You also need to choose a =
delivery protocol, such as</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>RTSP.</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; I heared H.264 is really ahead of other codecs =
in term of quality vs</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; bandwidth.</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sure is.&nbsp; Beats WMV9 hands down IMO.</FONT> </P> <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; How does that relate to your best supported =
codec ? Is there any</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; plan for supporting H.264 as well ?</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>It's already supported.</FONT>
</P>

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system('vlc -I http --http-src /var/www/simula/VLC --http-host 192.168.0.7
-d');

I know that the daemon is start. I want to control this daemon from PHP
clicking the PLAY button. Now, when it click this button, the PHP program
does this:

<vlc id="control" param1="play" param2="simpson.avi">
<vlc id="set" param1="sout" param2="udp:192.168.0.255">

I suposse that this is incorrect, because in the client machines (they are
waiting for a streaming) not happend anything.

I want to know if exist the posibility of do what I desire.

If the answer if 'yes', please can you write an example?

Thanks for your time.

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did not understand your full streaming chain! :-)
I would try changing some parameters such as codec and/or bitrates.
WFR,
Claudio

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not understand your full streaming chain! :-)
I would try changing some parameters such as codec and/or bitrates.
WFR,
Claudio

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To : vlc at videolan.org
Cc =
:
Date : Sat, 26 Feb 2005 12:07:53 +0100
Subject : [vlc] =
VideoLAN, SDP file and QuickTime

Is it possible to stream in mul=

ticast with VideoLAN, create a proper SDP

file and play the stream op=

ening the SDP file with QuickTime?

I tried the following but with =
"C:\Programmi\VideoLAN\VLC\vlc.exe" -vvv --reset-confi=

g --ttl 1

"D:\video.avi" --sout "#transcode:rtp" --sout-transcode-vco=

dec=3D"mp4v"

--sout-transcode-vb=3D"256" --sout-transcode-acodec=3D"m=

p3"

--sout-transcode-ab=3D"192" --sout-transcode-channels=3D"2"
-=

-sout-rtp-dst=3D"239.255.155.155" --sout-rtp-ttl=3D"1"

--sout-rtp-por=

t-audio=3D"5000" --sout-rtp-port-video=3D"5002"

--sout-rtp-sdp=3D"fil=

e://D:/vlc.sdp"

The sdp file is created but when opened by QuickTi=

me nothing is played.

the network is ok becuase I'm able =

to stream in multicast from vlc and

receive with vcl.
Rega=

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Date : Sat, 26 Feb 2=
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Subject : [vlc] Open SDP file with vlc

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through a Windows 2000 streaming server also counteracts the PTS
problems
slightly but this is probably only because an additional buffer/delay is
introduced.

On a side note it would be nice to have Windows 2003 servers "listen" to
VLC
http streams as well for relaying purposes. Somehow that doesn't seem to
work
because of some initial HTTP request/negotiation that goes wrong.=20

I believe the following threads on the VideoLAN forum also point to this
issue:
http://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?t=3D6048
http://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?t=3D7605

Regards, D


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Van: vlc-bounce at videolan.org [mailto:vlc-bounce at videolan.org] Namens
Philippe De Neve
Verzonden: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 4:53 PM
Aan: vlc at videolan.org
Onderwerp: [vlc] frame freeze or show errors?

Hi,

I did next experiment:

Stream a wm9 sequence from windows media server (mms) to VLC with
packet
loss: No blockyness only frame freeze (I get a lot of PTS warnings.)

Stream a DivX sequence from VLM (rtsp) to VLC with packet loss:
Blockyness no frame freeze (errors are shown)

Now my question is:
Who determines what happens when packets are lost?

I thought the player decided whether it displays errors or whether it
drops erroneous frames. But clearly this is not the case. Could you
tell if it is codec, streamer or access protocol dependend. I do not
think it depends on the access protocol cause:

Streaming a wm9 sequence from windows media server (rtsp) to windows
media player : no blockyness, only frame freeze.

Streaming a wm9 sequence from windows media server (mms) to windows
media player : no blockyness, only frame freeze.


any information is welcome,

regards, Philippe

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telnet server 4212 results in no response from the server. I get the
password prompt, but it ends there.

When I telnet from either the server, or the winxp machines, I can enter the
password, then control livetv play, and all works great! VLC on the linux
diskless computer and winxp machines, as the client, is clean and crisp.

Does anyone have any idea what could go wrong with bidirectional
communications on the telnet interface from certain linux machines?

I'm going to start adding debugging to the code to try and track this down.

Jim

"Benjamin Pracht" <bigben+spam at videolan.org> wrote in message

How can I get vlc (vlm) to read such a configuration file on startup?

The --vlm-conf <file> option should make the trick.
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timing issue. Is this a bug?

Regards,
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(underperforms) 4 times than your result. How can we
fine tune to achieve the results you have got?

What SATA HDD you use, plz mention that.

-Regards,
Ganpath

Hi all,
I am using the VLM plugin of VLC (telnet interface)
for a video on
demand application.
I have managed to (UDP) stream up to 20 videos
simultaneously without
problems. However, when I try a higher number of
streams, the VLC stops
streaming (although the telnet interface reports
that the status of the
streams is "playing").
Is there a known value of maximum concurrent streams
that the VLC can
handle?
Memory and CPU usage seems OK on the server.
Regards,
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All the rc command work well. I can start reading the dvd on myhost, change
chapters, controle volume, etc.

But the menu command does not seem to work.

I issue in telnet the commands "menu select/up/down/on/off/left/right" when
myhost displays some menu of the dvd and nothing happens (the menu selection
does not change). I get the following errors in the vlc terminal on myhost :

[00000275] main interface error: osd_MenuNext failed
[00000275] main interface error: osd_MenuDown failed
[00000275] main interface error: osd_MenuPrev failed

On the remote host, I don't get any error. Each menu command outputs
menu: returned 0 (no error)

This is a shame because the rc interface does not control languages and
subtitles, so the menu command is necessary to achieve this.

vlc version is 0.8.4-svn20040920
Any help is welcome

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with their own Nagravision2 and the receiver/smartcard pair contain the
keys to decrypt the signal.&nbsp; A similar system could be possible with
VLC either built-in or using a separate proxy-type program.&nbsp; I'll
outline the proxy program because to me, it would seem more versatile.<br>
<br>
A server program, preferably commandline, would take the video stream
and a user provided key (either, on the commandline or from a file) and
output an encrypted stream.&nbsp; This program could be run on the same
system or a separate system as a proxy to the stream.&nbsp; On the user end
the same program would act as a second proxy and retrieve that
encrypted stream and use the provided key to decrypt the signal:<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; VLC ---&gt; Encryption Proxy ---&gt; Decryption Proxy ----&gt;
VLC/Media Payer/Real Player/Etc...<br>
<br>
A system like this would allow for multiple inaccessable streams coming
from within a private network running through a single (or multiple)
accessable proxy system on the web.&nbsp; The client could either have an
installed program and be provided a key, or the program could be a
binary on a USB dongle with the key built-in (in the event that the
person providing the stream doesn't want to divulge the key).&nbsp; Using
the second method, the client could tune in to streams represented as
"channels" on the dongle.&nbsp; These "channels" would merely be shortcut
URLs through the client proxy back to the proxy server's output streams.<br>
<br>
(This should probably be on the development mailing list, but since the
topic was brought up here, I wanted to add to it)<br>
<br>
<br>
R&eacute;mi Denis-Courmont wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid200601121712.17306.rem at videolan.org" type="cite">
<pre wrap="">Le Mercredi 11 Janvier 2006 11:01, Ow Mun Heng a &eacute;crit :
</pre>
<blockquote type="cite">
<blockquote type="cite">
<pre wrap="">That is to say, settings up HTTP/SSL is very complicated. Also, one
has to keep in mind that TCP is usually very poor for streaming
purposes.
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap="">Yep..Yep.. however, the idea I'm having right now is leaning more
towards making sure the video can only be viewed by select
individuals etc. Just like GPG etc.
</pre>
</blockquote>
<pre wrap=""><!---->
We could add GPG keyrings support for SSL authentication as well, but
that is a &#8220;proprietary&#8221; or at least non-standard (though LGPL'd)
extension of SSL/TLS that only GnuTLS implements.

For now, you should be able to use a CA and give certificate/private key
pairs to any of the client you want to grant access to said video.
However, I've never tested that succesfully, and in any case, the
access control will be limited to granting access to all videos or no
videos at all, to any given client.


There could be better alternative, but I don't know any standard, nor
anyone willing to dedicate time into that.

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CE.

However, Windows Mobile is based on Windows CE to a certain extend, =
right?

If they were different, can anyone give me the link to the files =
required for the cross-compilation to the Windows Mobile instead?

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About VideoLAN

VideoLAN is a software project <http://www.videolan.org/project>, which
produces free software <http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html> for
video, released under the GNU General Public
License<http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html>
.
Learn more <http://www.videolan.org/project> about the VideoLAN project.

Our main product is the cross-platform VLC media player.
--
Please feel free to read the GNU General Public
License<http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html>

Best Regards
Pedro Tumusok

It may interest you to know that after downloading your piece of garbage,
i intend to rubbish it at every single available opportunity, e.g. forums=

,

reviews etc, etc....
I have just wasted an incredible amount of time trying to figure out how
this junk actually works. I have been using Limewire for some time now, a=

nd

during downloading I can preview my video downloads with any software
program, such as InterVideo, Windows Media Player, Real Player etc, all b=

ut

one VideoLAN, which falsely claims that it can play `anything'. This, of
course is a blatent lie, and I'm sure that this is illegal in some way.
The very fact that you deliberately have "no instructions on its use",
"avoid answering or engaging customers by fobbing them off with FAQ or
forums" speaks for itself. For Christ sake, you don't even have a functio=

nal

`help' facility. I had to use a search engine to catch you.
You should not be allowed to trade, whilst making false claims to provide
a service, and i fully intend to alert everyone and warn them to well cle=

ar

of your fake, non-functional program.
Regards,
Glenn Gordon
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lt/nowyoucan/wall_st_2/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=3D40565/*http://uk.docs.=
yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html>. "The New Version is radically easier to use" =96=
The Wall Street Journal
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Best regards / Mvh
Jan Pedro Tumusok

Back when I had a little I thought that I needed a lot
A little was over rated, but a lot was a little too complicated
You see-Zero didn't satisfy me. A million didn't make me happy
That's when I learned a lesson. That it's all about your perception

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I guess you didnt read the license that came with the software.<br><br>From=
the webpage : <a href=3D"http://www.videolan.org/">http://www.videolan.org=
/</a><br><br><h2>About VideoLAN</h2>
<p>VideoLAN is a software <a href=3D"http://www.videolan.org/project">pro=
ject</a>, which produces
<a href=3D"http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html">free
software</a> for video, released under the GNU <a href=3D"http://www.gnu.=
org/copyleft/gpl.html">General Public
License</a>.<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.videolan.org/project">Learn more</a> about the Vide=
oLAN project.</p>
<p>Our main product is the cross-platform VLC media player.</p>--<br>Plea=
se feel free to read the GNU <a href=3D"http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.htm=
l">General Public
License</a><br><br>Best Regards<br>Pedro Tumusok<br><br><br><div><span cl=
ass=3D"gmail_quote">On 10/9/06, <b class=3D"gmail_sendername">Glenn Gordon<=
/b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:glenngor2001 at yahoo.co.uk">glenngor2001 at yahoo.co.u=
k </a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-lef=
t: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1=
ex;"><div>TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:</div> <div>&nbsp;</div> <div>It may int=
erest you to know that after downloading your piece of garbage, i intend to=
rubbish it at every single available opportunity,=20
e.g. forums, reviews etc, etc....</div> <div>&nbsp;</div> <div>I have jus=
t wasted an incredible amount of time trying to figure out how this junk ac=
tually works. I have been using Limewire for some time now, and during down=
loading I can preview my&nbsp;video downloads with any software program, su=
ch as InterVideo, Windows Media Player, Real Player etc, all but one VideoL=
AN, which falsely claims that it can play `anything'. This, of course is a =
blatent lie, and I'm sure that this is illegal in some way.
</div> <div>&nbsp;</div> <div>The very fact that you deliberately have &q=
uot;no instructions on its use&quot;, &quot;avoid answering or engaging cus=
tomers by fobbing them off with FAQ or forums&quot; speaks for itself. For =
Christ sake, you don't even have a functional `help' facility. I had to use=
a
search engine to catch you. </div> <div>&nbsp;</div> <div>You should not=
be allowed to trade, whilst making false claims to provide a service, and =
i fully intend to alert everyone and warn them to well clear of your fake, =
non-functional program.
</div> <div>&nbsp;</div> <div>Regards,</div><span class=3D"sg"> <div>Gle=
nn Gordon</div></span><span class=3D"ad"> <div>&nbsp;</div><p>=20
=09=09</p><hr size=3D"1">=20
Try the <a href=3D"http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail/uk/taglines/default/nowyouca=
n/wall_st_2/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=3D40565/*http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/n=
owyoucan.html" target=3D"_blank" onclick=3D"return top.js.OpenExtLink(windo=
w,event,this)">
all-new Yahoo! Mail</a> . &quot;The New Version is radically easier to use&=
quot; =96 The Wall Street Journal
<p></p></span></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>Best rega=
rds / Mvh<br>Jan Pedro Tumusok<br><br>Back when I had a little I thought th=
at I needed a lot <br>A little was over rated, but a lot was a little too c=
omplicated=20
<br>You see-Zero didn't satisfy me. A million didn't make me happy <br>That=
's when I learned a lesson. That it's all about your perception

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About VideoLAN VideoLAN is a software project, which produces free software for video, released under the GNU General Public License.
Learn more about the VideoLAN project.
Our main product is the cross-platform VLC media player.
--
Please feel free to read the GNU General Public License

Best Regards
Pedro Tumusok


On 10/9/06, Glenn Gordon <glenngor2001 at yahoo.co.uk > wrote: TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:

It may interest you to know that after downloading your piece of garbage, i intend to rubbish it at every single available opportunity, e.g. forums, reviews etc, etc....

I have just wasted an incredible amount of time trying to figure out how this junk actually works. I have been using Limewire for some time now, and during downloading I can preview my video downloads with any software program, such as InterVideo, Windows Media Player, Real Player etc, all but one VideoLAN, which falsely claims that it can play `anything'. This, of course is a blatent lie, and I'm sure that this is illegal in some way.

The very fact that you deliberately have "no instructions on its use", "avoid answering or engaging customers by fobbing them off with FAQ or forums" speaks for itself. For Christ sake, you don't even have a functional `help' facility. I had to use a search engine to catch you.

You should not be allowed to trade, whilst making false claims to provide a service, and i fully intend to alert everyone and warn them to well clear of your fake, non-functional program.

Regards,
Glenn Gordon




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Best regards / Mvh
Jan Pedro Tumusok

Back when I had a little I thought that I needed a lot
A little was over rated, but a lot was a little too complicated
You see-Zero didn't satisfy me. A million didn't make me happy
That's when I learned a lesson. That it's all about your perception





Glenn

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Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit <div>Well, it says a lot about you. I did not insult you once, you fucking idiot, so learn to read.&nbsp;There, now you accuse me of throwing insults. You, by remaining anonymous show that you can't even answer the question. Also, if everyone else is wrong and you are right, what does that say about you? Arrogant wanker.</div> <div>&nbsp;</div> <div>Now, you can say I'm being insulting. That's being insulting. You deliberately try to deceive customers, so what kind of language do you expect? I'll send you samples of what others are saying, but even then you'll remain arrogant.</div> <div>&nbsp;</div> <div>Get your facts straight next time you fool.</div> <div>&nbsp;</div> <div>Regards<BR><BR><B><I>Philippe De Neve &lt;philippe.deneve at intec.ugent.be&gt;</I></B> wrote:</div> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Glenn, <DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV> <DIV>it seems to me that you have some
sort of deep frustration against computers and software.&nbsp; You belong to the select group of individuals who manage to fail in using this software tool.&nbsp; You should go into therapy (just as the others of your group did) before throwing insults and other 'garbage' at the volunteers who work on this project.</DIV> <DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV> <DIV>regards, Phil.</DIV> <DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV> <DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV> <DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV> <DIV><BR> <DIV> <DIV>On 09 Oct 2006, at 13:18, Pedro Tumusok wrote:</DIV><BR class=Apple-interchange-newline> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">I guess you didnt read the license that came with the software.<BR><BR>From the webpage : <A href="http://www.videolan.org/">http://www.videolan.org/</A><BR><BR> <H2>About VideoLAN</H2> <div>VideoLAN is a software <A href="http://www.videolan.org/project">project</A>, which produces <A
href="http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html">free software</A> for video, released under the GNU <A href="http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html">General Public License</A>.<BR><A href="http://www.videolan.org/project">Learn more</A> about the VideoLAN project.</div> <div>Our main product is the cross-platform VLC media player.</div>--<BR>Please feel free to read the GNU <A href="http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html">General Public License</A><BR><BR>Best Regards<BR>Pedro Tumusok<BR><BR><BR> <DIV><SPAN class=gmail_quote>On 10/9/06, <B class=gmail_sendername>Glenn Gordon</B> &lt;<A href="mailto:glenngor2001 at yahoo.co.uk">glenngor2001 at yahoo.co.uk </A>&gt; wrote:</SPAN> <BLOCKQUOTE class=gmail_quote style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid"> <DIV>TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>It may interest you to know that after downloading your piece of garbage, i intend to rubbish it at every single
available opportunity, e.g. forums, reviews etc, etc....</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>I have just wasted an incredible amount of time trying to figure out how this junk actually works. I have been using Limewire for some time now, and during downloading I can preview my&nbsp;video downloads with any software program, such as InterVideo, Windows Media Player, Real Player etc, all but one VideoLAN, which falsely claims that it can play `anything'. This, of course is a blatent lie, and I'm sure that this is illegal in some way. </DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>The very fact that you deliberately have "no instructions on its use", "avoid answering or engaging customers by fobbing them off with FAQ or forums" speaks for itself. For Christ sake, you don't even have a functional `help' facility. I had to use a search engine to catch you. </DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>You should not be allowed to trade, whilst making false claims to provide a service, and i fully intend to
alert everyone and warn them to well clear of your fake, non-functional program. </DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Regards,</DIV><SPAN class=sg> <DIV>Glenn Gordon</DIV></SPAN><SPAN class=ad> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV> <HR SIZE=1> Try the <A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail/uk/taglines/default/nowyoucan/wall_st_2/*http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=40565/*http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html" target=_blank>all-new Yahoo! Mail</A> . "The New Version is radically easier to use" ? The Wall Street Journal <DIV><BR class=khtml-block-placeholder></DIV></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR clear=all><BR>-- <BR>Best regards / Mvh<BR>Jan Pedro Tumusok<BR><BR>Back when I had a little I thought that I needed a lot <BR>A little was over rated, but a lot was a little too complicated <BR>You see-Zero didn't satisfy me. A million didn't make me happy <BR>That's when I learned a lesson. That it's all
about your perception</BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><BR><STRONG><EM><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>Glenn</FONT></EM></STRONG><p>&#32;
<hr size=1>
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rg/</a><BR>
<BR>
</SPAN><FONT SIZE=3D"5"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:18.0px'><B>About VideoLAN<BR>
</B></SPAN></FONT><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:12.0px'>VideoLAN is a software pro=
ject <a href=3D"http://www.videolan.org/project">&lt;http://www.videolan.org/p=
roject&gt;</a> , which produces &nbsp;free &nbsp;software <a href=3D"http://ww=
w.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html">&lt;http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw=
.html&gt;</a> &nbsp;for video, released under the GNU General Public &nbsp;L=
icense <a href=3D"http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html">&lt;http://www.gnu.org=
/copyleft/gpl.html&gt;</a> .<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;Learn more <a href=3D"http://www.videolan.org/project">&lt;http:/=
/www.videolan.org/project&gt;</a> &nbsp;about the VideoLAN project.<BR>
<BR>
Our main product is the cross-platform VLC media player.<BR>
--<BR>
Please feel free to read the GNU General Public &nbsp;License <a href=3D"http=
://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html">&lt;http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html&g=
t;</a> <BR>
<BR>
Best Regards<BR>
Pedro Tumusok<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
On 10/9/06, <B>Glenn Gordon</B> &lt;glenngor2001 at yahoo.co.uk &nbsp;<a href=3D=

&gt; wrote:<BR>

</SPAN></FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><SPAN STYL=
E=3D'font-size:12.0px'>TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
=A0<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
It may interest you to know that after downloading your piece of garbage, i=
intend to rubbish it at every single available opportunity, e.g. forums, re=
views etc, etc....<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
=A0<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
I have just wasted an incredible amount of time trying to figure out how th=
is junk actually works. I have been using Limewire for some time now, and du=
ring downloading I can preview my=A0video downloads with any software program,=
such as InterVideo, Windows Media Player, Real Player etc, all but one Vide=
oLAN, which falsely claims that it can play `anything'. This, of course is a=
blatent lie, and I'm sure that this is illegal in some way. <BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
=A0<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
The very fact that you deliberately have &quot;no instructions on its use&q=
uot;, &quot;avoid answering or engaging customers by fobbing them off with F=
AQ or forums&quot; speaks for itself. For Christ sake, you don't even have a=
functional `help' facility. I had to use a search engine to catch you. <BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
=A0<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
You should not be allowed to trade, whilst making false claims to provide a=
service, and i fully intend to alert everyone and warn them to well clear o=
f your fake, non-functional program. <BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
=A0<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
Regards,<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
Glenn Gordon<BR>
&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR>
=A0<BR>
&nbsp;<BR>
<HR ALIGN=3DCENTER SIZE=3D"1" WIDTH=3D"100%"> Try the &nbsp;all-new Yahoo! Mail <=
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&lt;http://us.rd.yahoo.com/mail/uk/taglines/default/nowyoucan/wall_st_2/*htt=
p://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=3D40565/*http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html&gt;</=
a> &nbsp;. &quot;The New Version is radically easier to use&quot; &#8211; Th=
e Wall Street Journal <BR>
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Best regards / Mvh<BR>
Jan Pedro Tumusok<BR>
<BR>
Back when I had a little I thought that I needed a lot <BR>
A little was over rated, but a lot was a little too complicated <BR>
You see-Zero didn't satisfy me. A million didn't make me happy <BR>
That's when I learned a lesson. That it's all about your perception<BR>
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